Depending on the engine design you can make up to 400ft-lbs with that much HP based on what I have seen, plenty for rally cars.
Get on the SM forums and find out what the drivers are spending each year. If you only run regionally and have a place to sleep for the night, IE camper/tent, you can keep costs reasonably low.
I expect regionally you would be looking at less thank $10k a year to race the car, just have to buy one =) But this is not the best place to look for info, a better place is where the real drivers of the series 'hang out' and try to get some info from the source.
You could buy the car one year, run HDPE's and other trackday events to gain confidence and work on getting your SCCA license, then the next year apply into the series and run some events, while still doing trackdays.
I expect regionally you would be looking at less thank $10k a year to race the car, just have to buy one =) But this is not the best place to look for info, a better place is where the real drivers of the series 'hang out' and try to get some info from the source.
You could buy the car one year, run HDPE's and other trackday events to gain confidence and work on getting your SCCA license, then the next year apply into the series and run some events, while still doing trackdays.
Hehe each to their own. I rev in response to someone, but then I don't exactly grind rice, I think it's more wheat =)
What really cracks me up when you get someone that put a Campbell's soup can off the back of their factory car and revvs at lights. Why?
What really cracks me up when you get someone that put a Campbell's soup can off the back of their factory car and revvs at lights. Why?
The guys that are faster than you are faster for a reason, handicaping them because they have a skill advantage is not a solution.
Read Becky's how to and follow it, it's the best thing you can do to combat your problems on the grid, anticipation is key to preventing accidents.
Read Becky's how to and follow it, it's the best thing you can do to combat your problems on the grid, anticipation is key to preventing accidents.
I love driving these cars too =) Need to get my calibration cable so I can set up my pedals again...
Sam it possible to have a way to set 'highlight weeks' where each week a class of cars/server is selected for a points increase over the normal?
Sam it possible to have a way to set 'highlight weeks' where each week a class of cars/server is selected for a points increase over the normal?
FTR Mugen is not a factory car. It's an aftermarket company, like Ligenfelter (SP) or Hennessy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mugen-Honda
It's closely linked to Honda but these are not factory cars. Bit pricey for something so slow. A Mazda S3 or Caliber are faster and they are true factory cars, but of these make more HP than this car.
It looks alright, but could be a lot faster if they would put some real power down, 240 isn't the greatest for a car that costs $40,000.
I can see why Civic owners would like it, but defo not my cup of tea.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mugen-Honda
It's closely linked to Honda but these are not factory cars. Bit pricey for something so slow. A Mazda S3 or Caliber are faster and they are true factory cars, but of these make more HP than this car.
It looks alright, but could be a lot faster if they would put some real power down, 240 isn't the greatest for a car that costs $40,000.
I can see why Civic owners would like it, but defo not my cup of tea.
Cheers, search FTW... me=fail.
Why didn't they just take n XFG< place the XRG body on it and call it a scirocco? =P
Anyways back on topic again....
Why didn't they just take n XFG< place the XRG body on it and call it a scirocco? =P
Anyways back on topic again....
Eww Scirocco, might as well say Golf and get it over with =)
BTW where in the heck did you pull Scirocco out from? I have been pretty out of LFS for a while, getting a new calibration cable for my pedals so over Christmas I can get some racing in. There some new 'updates' coming in a patch for Christmas that I haven't heard about? =)
BTW where in the heck did you pull Scirocco out from? I have been pretty out of LFS for a while, getting a new calibration cable for my pedals so over Christmas I can get some racing in. There some new 'updates' coming in a patch for Christmas that I haven't heard about? =)
Don't worry Sam and everyone =) They will be done 'soon' I have to work 4 days yet this year then I will have some time to sort through them and get them completed. I have my classwork to do, but I get a two week break from that too, freeing me up a bit.
Lyla can be a handful at times, but I am sure I can get some time to run through the reports, lets say by Christmas.
Lyla can be a handful at times, but I am sure I can get some time to run through the reports, lets say by Christmas.
I think it was $4000 for a 2 day single seater session at Road America. A great learning experience coudl be had, but nothing that would last.Spec Miata is going to be your cheapest W2W racing IMO. To be competitive you are probably looking towards $20,000 for a car Nationally, but you can still have a ton of fun running an old Miata in the spec class with some very close racing and fairly large grids IIRC, IIRC all you need is Mazda's suspension and a rollcage with slicks. Sounds like a blast to me! =) I would do a bit more work than that, but but it's an option.
The cheapest would be AutoX in a production class but this is time attack only.
You could do high speed time attack which you are on an actual track, but again it's not W2W. Sprints are the same with the exception you are using a bit of road instead, usually up a mountain.
Go karts are not an option really IMO, for the cost to run you could almost run the Miata spec class, and you would have a lot more fun in the Miata IMO.
pass-out = a lot of divers crashing...hmm I could see the appeals now...
I would like to see racers heading to the pits after a race, but Sam is right and we run a public based system and people do need time to relax and recompose before the next race.
When the event system does get put in place I have a good feeling that the idea of heading to the pits will be implemented. =0
OT: Sam pls remind me to not to make replies to certian individuals on the forum, they are more closed minded than I am!
I would like to see racers heading to the pits after a race, but Sam is right and we run a public based system and people do need time to relax and recompose before the next race.
When the event system does get put in place I have a good feeling that the idea of heading to the pits will be implemented. =0
OT: Sam pls remind me to not to make replies to certian individuals on the forum, they are more closed minded than I am!
I think you need help, or at least an education.
I have nothing to 'come back' with because I have yet to see anything thrown. Not one statement you brought forward was substantiated with fact which makes any argument about as useless as... square tires. But since you cannot 'see' that I am hitting my head against a brick wall of ignorance and nothing anyone says or will say will change or alter your perception or understanding even if any facts show that your perception is inaccurate.
There is also a term called 'self fulfilled prophecy' in which that a person believes that an event or trend is guaranteed to happen that they make no effort to alter it's course, thus fulfilling the 'prophecy'. In simple English is this is too difficult to understand... it means that you believe what you want to believe to a point that you do not make any preparations to prevent the event from happening and voilà you were right! Then you can say to everyone haha I was right!
Thankfully there are other people in the world with a much more factual based approach to life. I don't even know why I bother writing on the forums 1/2 the time, everyone seems to run around like a headless chicken screaming 'AHH THE SKY IS FALLING, it's a plot by the government to keel us all!' Since it's been said it surely has to be true now, maybe you should add that to your post too, I think it adds validity to your 'argument'
I've said my 2p worth, you can continue on your unsubstantiated attack on the government again. I need a good laugh yet today.
I have nothing to 'come back' with because I have yet to see anything thrown. Not one statement you brought forward was substantiated with fact which makes any argument about as useless as... square tires. But since you cannot 'see' that I am hitting my head against a brick wall of ignorance and nothing anyone says or will say will change or alter your perception or understanding even if any facts show that your perception is inaccurate.
There is also a term called 'self fulfilled prophecy' in which that a person believes that an event or trend is guaranteed to happen that they make no effort to alter it's course, thus fulfilling the 'prophecy'. In simple English is this is too difficult to understand... it means that you believe what you want to believe to a point that you do not make any preparations to prevent the event from happening and voilà you were right! Then you can say to everyone haha I was right!
Thankfully there are other people in the world with a much more factual based approach to life. I don't even know why I bother writing on the forums 1/2 the time, everyone seems to run around like a headless chicken screaming 'AHH THE SKY IS FALLING, it's a plot by the government to keel us all!' Since it's been said it surely has to be true now, maybe you should add that to your post too, I think it adds validity to your 'argument'
I've said my 2p worth, you can continue on your unsubstantiated attack on the government again. I need a good laugh yet today.
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Not being sarcy - a genuine question
Hehe I agree with Sam =)
I got a good chuckle too that you had to put
this into your post.
Everyone will be in for a rough year next year and possibly the year after. There are talks about deflation and all sorts of other nasty economic terms.
I think experts know what they are talking about and mostly, if not fully, understand the system we use to conduct business. To say otherwise you yourself would have to be an expert in these fields, which I highly doubt. All your post does is fuel the fear that is already driving the economy down farther than it has to go.
I think people are expecting the worst, but hoping for the best. Hope is a good thing despite what some others believe.
Haha I like the Chinease lookalike, probably drives better too =)
Mustangs were never and have never been designed for handling in mind, it's always been meant as a cheap way for people to get a 'performance icon'. They are overweight, underpowered, live axle pieces of cheap thrills. (don't tell that to a mustang owner!)
You can get independent rear suspension and some after market companies take new cars and put one on (IE Cobra) but then the cost goes up and your better off with the Camaro.
Challenger has a nice lump with the SRT8 but weighs over 2ton... so even with it's independent suspension it isn't capable of much.
They are all heavier than they should be, but they are muscle cars, or mullet cars depending on who you talk to.
I donno if I like the fastback styling they went with on the Mustang. Camaro and Challenger are nice though.
Mustangs were never and have never been designed for handling in mind, it's always been meant as a cheap way for people to get a 'performance icon'. They are overweight, underpowered, live axle pieces of cheap thrills. (don't tell that to a mustang owner!)
You can get independent rear suspension and some after market companies take new cars and put one on (IE Cobra) but then the cost goes up and your better off with the Camaro.
Challenger has a nice lump with the SRT8 but weighs over 2ton... so even with it's independent suspension it isn't capable of much.
They are all heavier than they should be, but they are muscle cars, or mullet cars depending on who you talk to.
I donno if I like the fastback styling they went with on the Mustang. Camaro and Challenger are nice though.
I should I hope I am too considering mine is 4 wheel independent FWD
LOL I wonder who you are talking about
I hope he does recover, thats not a way to end a racing career.
Yeah you forgot that anything an American says on this forum is discredited because of their nationality...
Ohh I forgot to mention that ALL American cars use live axles and leaf springs, yes even the front wheel drives... yeah... The ONLY car in the US market that is still live axle is the Mustang, and that is for nostalgia proposes and to keep costs down. Live axles have not been used in a production car with any type of performance in the states for ages… but hold onto your perceptions, they are extremely accurate and provide useful insight to the US auto market...
If he has structural changes in the brain I wouldn't think so =(
There is a ton more things that can be implemented, but I think for now there isn't much more that can be done. Sam's flat out as it is =) I'd love to see weekly compititions with prizes, but $$$ is a problem as well as time. Many of us are juggling different projects seperate of LFS, some professional, other bits are fun but it all takes time!
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Well technically this IS accurate because in carom you are hitting the ball exactly in the middle whereas in RL you are always slightly off, putting spin on the ball which deflects the ball in different directions.
It's not a failing of the physics, it's the accuracy of your hit.
It's not a failing of the physics, it's the accuracy of your hit.
Yeah just a little
give it a year or two. They might actually decide that fuel injection actually works!
Does my head in on how they are using such 'old' tech on these cars. They did look at moving to FI a couple years ago abut in the end they didn't because of 'costs' associated with regulating the new engines. Total BS IMO. This was looked at the same time of the COT car IIRC.
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